Transforming Grief into Hope with Author Kaidi Sophia Sluder

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WCP S1 E63 | Limiting Beliefs

 

Writers often find it hard to publish their work because they are drowned in a sea of limiting beliefs. They are afraid that no one will read them or they will never succeed as authors. Kaidi Sophia Sluder faced these same thoughts herself, on top of the loss of her beloved aunt. However, she used these things to move forward and escape her comfort zone. In this conversation with Yanet Borrego, she breaks down how she transformed her negative emotions, fears, and vulnerability into powerful motivations for the entire writing process of her book. Kaidi also explains how writing aligned with her lifelong healing process, allowing her to confidently face whatever the future may have in store.

 

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Transforming Grief into Hope with Author Kaidi Sophia Sluder

I am so excited for this episode because we have a very special person, Kaidi Sophia Sluder. I met Kaidi weeks ago in a meeting where we were a lot of business women connecting and networking with each other. She is such an inspiring person because she published her first book while completing her Homeland Security Major. It’s crazy because many times, we think that it's too late or we are too young to publish a book. We have all these limitations inside our minds. I think Kaidi is the embodiment of empowerment and taking responsibility for her dreams.

To introduce her formally, Kaidi Sophia Sluder is a Chinese-Moroccan-American author with a Homeland Security Major. She published her first poetry book called Bits & Pieces: Grief, Anxiety, Longing & Healing. These books intend to help readers express and understand their emotions, and heal from their traumas through Kaidi's life journey. I've read a lot of the book and I'm in love with it. I can’t wait to know more about your journey, Kaidi. Welcome to the show. How are you doing?

I'm good, thank you. Thank you for having me. I look forward to this.

I was reading your bio in Amazon, where you're selling your book. I was researching. Every time I would learn more about you, I would become more intrigued. I'm like, “She knows four languages and her journey and all these things.” I'm excited. I think you are a very inspiring and aspirational person. Kaidi, you are Chinese-Moroccan-American. I love the combination. Tell us more about your background. Where did it all start for you? Where were you born? How did you get here? Tell us everything about it.

I was born in Morocco. My mom is Moroccan. We're native Moroccan, which I find so cool and everything because we have our own tribal dialects and all of that. My family is fluent in it. I still have to practice with my grandma and everything to get eased into it, but I understand everything pretty much. My dad is Chinese from Beijing.

It's crazy because my parents met in Togo, Africa. He had a Chinese restaurant there, and my mom went there for work and they happened to cross paths. After that, they got married, had me and my brother, and then divorced after two years or whatever. I lived in Morocco up until I was around 11 or 12 years old, and then I moved here.

We have a similar story. My mom and my dad met in Cuba where I'm from. We've moved to the US when I was twelve years old. That's so interesting. Tell me more about Morocco. I'm interested. Do they have more different dialects in Morocco? How does the culture work? I've always wanted to go there, but I haven't gotten the chance yet.

You should. If I go next summer, I'll invite you. You can come with me. I'm thinking of maybe having a graduation celebration there with my family. We'll see how everything works out. If I go, I'll make sure to take you with me.

I'll go for sure. Do they have different dialects? What is the main language in Morocco?

Our language is considered a form of Arabic, but whenever we speak it, other Arab speakers don't understand us. It's like Spanish and Portuguese. They don't understand us but we understand what they say. It's a little bit of a mixture of Arabic, French, and Spanish. Morocco is twenty minutes by ferry or twenty miles, I can't remember exactly, from Spain. We're that close to Spain. We’re also colonized by the French. Both cultures and languages are infused within the Moroccan culture and everything.

That is beautiful. I read that you know four languages, if I remember well. Is that right?

Yes, it's Moroccan, English, French, and Arabic.

Did you learn all of them there in Morocco?

Yes. In Morocco, it's very interesting but everyone there is bilingual. My grandma, because she’s from an older generation, she's illiterate. She didn't go to school and stuff because at the time, a woman's place was getting married, running the household and everything. She's still bilingual because since she's a native Moroccan, they have their own tribal dialect, and they speak the actual national Moroccan language. My grandpa speaks three languages. It would be the tribal dialect and national Moroccan, and then French. My mom is English. Ever since kindergarten, they start teaching you both French alphabet and Arabic alphabet. You grow up speaking at least three languages.

That is so impressive. I love that. I needed to ask the question. I'm like, “I need to understand where this came from.” Thank you so much for explaining. Let's talk about your book, which I have here. I was re-reading some pieces in preparation for this interview. Bits & Pieces, this is a very profound book. It's full of vulnerability and emotions.

WCP S1 E63 | Limiting BeliefsAs a reader, you read it and you relate, and you're feeling all those emotions that we all sometimes try to hide, to be honest. I want to know your journey. How did this journey of writing the book start? I know you published it in 2022, but you have been writing it for years before even getting published. Tell me more about the journey.

I always turned into writing as a way to comfort myself or deal with my emotions, and try to understand whatever is going on. I never thought publishing a book was ever in my plan or anything like that. In 2017, my aunts, one of them was murdered and the other one died 24-hours later from the shock and everything. After that, I started writing more. That's where the vulnerability part came out of it because I was trying to get through the grief process and everything.

After that, it's amazing but a lot of stuff comes out even after the grief period. Whenever you lose a loved one, then you realize life is short. We all know that, but you either don't realize it or your perspective doesn't change until you end up losing that loved one. That's when I was like, “Maybe I should publish my work.” During COVID, I saw a lot of people lose their loved ones. I figured maybe I was a little ahead in my grief journey. If I could publish this, then it might help some people get through it as well.

I can totally relate to you in this grieving process. My family is super small. It's basically my mom, my uncle, and my grandmother who are in Cuba. My dad is in Cuba. My mom and I were the only ones who immigrated here basically. In 2021, for the first time ever, I lost someone in my family. My uncle died from cancer. He was such an influential piece in my life since childhood. He was like a father figure to me.

I lost him to cancer, and I had never lost anyone before, so I didn't know what to expect, to be honest. It is so true what you said that those waves of griefs happen in the moment as a shock, but later on, they keep coming. It's a process of healing. Just like you were inspired by your aunts passing away, I was inspired by my uncle because he had many dreams he couldn't fulfill, and then life ended. I was like, “That's not going to be me.” That was such a big inspiration for me to transition from my nine years corporate career to full-time coaching and speaking, which is what I'm passionate about. Everything you're saying resonates so much with me, and I'm sure it resonates with many of our readers, which is amazing.

I'm sorry for your loss. They say it gets better. I don't know. I think with time, you learn to get through the pain or live with it. I can understand how influential your uncle was to you because it was the same thing for me with my aunts. My mom immigrated first. She was working 2 or 3 jobs to support my brother, me, and her family back home since she was the oldest. My mom's side of the family are the ones that raised me, so my aunts were like second moms to me.

Your aunt event was the one who motivated to publish. When did the writing process start? You write about grief, anxiety, longing, and healing. Those are the four chapters of the book. When did the writing start? How old were you?

I think I started at 10 or 11. I always liked writing but at first, I'd go online and look up different poems and I would copy them down and hang them in my room on my wall and stuff because I like those poems. High school is when I was like, “I need to maybe start journaling and write in poems.” It started from there, but I don't think it ever went into depth until during the grief process.

I remember, in Cuba, I didn't have many toys or anything, but I had a lot of books. My uncle would always give me poem, books, and things that I would read. Honestly, all of those books were deep for a nine-year-old, but I would read them. I remember as a child, I would always be in love with a boy for whatever reason. I would write poems about that love that wasn't realized. I see in your work a lot of the poems are also similar in that sense towards someone that maybe you were in love that you were not corresponded, or you were lied toward or something. That deep love, that longing in a way.

I find inspiration in literally movies and music and everything like that, or even through my family’s or my friends' journeys. If they tell me something, I'm like, “That's interesting,” but I never think of it. I go to sleep and it hits me like a wave. Sometimes, I had moments where I woke up in the middle of the night and I'm jotting down whatever poem that came into my mind because I don't want to forget it, or I write it down on my phone to make sure that I don't forget it. The next day, I review it like, “I think this is good enough.” In the longing portion, some of them were about friends and family, and the others about love. I won't lie, it was honestly from inspirational stuff that I had, whether it's from sad music lyrics or romcoms or something like that.

That's beautiful too. Inspiration can come in many ways, life's experiences, or the interpretation that you have about a piece of music. That's the beauty of creation and creativity. It can come in many ways. There is not a specific how. The how remains flexible. That is so nice. I'm happy to see that through your college years you still connect to it. I used to write a lot in high school.

I started Chemical Engineering as my Bachelor’s. I feel that whenever I started studying Chemical Engineering, I stop writing. I stopped writing poetry but lately, funny enough, I've been called more to do it. I love connecting with you. Someone who has inspired me is Yung Pueblo. Do you know Yung Pueblo?

I think I've heard that name, but I haven't read his work.

I'm going to send you the Instagram link because you're going to feel very connected to him because he also writes in free verse. Most of his books are of free verse. You are going to love him too.

I need any recommendations you can give me.

I read your book, and I think of him too. You're going to resonate a lot with his work. He's super famous like you will be too because you're amazing.

Thank you.

I admire your work. You have been writing all these poem for years and years to come. When your aunt passed away, tell me the thought process and the emotional process of, “Yes, I'm going to publish this book.” What went through your mind? Did you talk to anyone or was that a decision that you felt within you and just decided to pursue it?

For a long time, I found it hard to commit to any little projects I was doing. During COVID, a lot of people lost their loved ones and everything like I mentioned. Also, my family lost its small business. We used to have two locations and it shut down. I was like, “This is the moment where I need to grow up, and learn to commit to something and finish some of my work or project I had at the time.” I was like, “I need to do this.”

 

That convinced me that I have to. I always knew life was short, but after COVID, I'm like, “You can try to control or plan as much as you want for it, but when it comes to stuff like this, no one ever sees it coming.” It's like you don't know what's to come. What if I were to die tomorrow and I never did anything with my life or accomplished anything because I was too scared to commit to finishing a project? That gave me the little push that I needed.

That's beautiful. One of my favorite spiritual teachers that I listen to, his name is Wayne Dyer. He passed away from cancer a few years back. He always said, “Do not die with your music inside.” That always has resonated so much with me because sometimes, we limit ourselves and we stay in the familiarity zone like you put in the back of your book because we are afraid of getting out of that comfort zone or the outcome, what the outcome might be that maybe is not the one we want. What have you learned about that? Through the act of committing to a project and trusting that things were going to work out in a way for you, what did you learn during that process?

At first, I didn't realize but what was holding me back in a way was the fear of maybe this would come to fruition. It's like, “What if I do good and people like my book? What’s next?” I think it's that anxiety that comes after. You're like, “What's going to happen next?” I enjoyed writing it. It's good that I committed to it. Now, I'm happy about it.

In a way, it’s giving me inspiration to commit more to whatever dreams I have or whatever I want to do next or anything like that. The best way to go on about living your life and not having any regrets is at least to try and make the best decision that you can in the moment and at the time, and see how things work out after that.

 

The best way to live your life is not to have any regrets and make the best decisions you can.

 

I love that so much. I can appreciate that you brought that up. There are two fears, the fear of failure but there is also a fear of, “What if I succeed? What's going to happen? Can I do this? What am I going to become? What's the next step?” I love that you brought that up because we don't talk often about that other fear of succeeding. How did you overcome that fear? Not necessarily overcome it, but how did you let that not stop you from working through your project?

If you want something hard enough, you find ways to push yourself and find the inspiration to complete that work or whatever dream that you have. I listen a lot to these motivational speakers and all of that. You have to be hungry for it and want it to achieve it because at that point, nothing in the way would stop you. Even you if have all these fears and challenges and obstacles, but you're like, “At the end of the day, this is what I want. I'm going to keep going forward until I get it.”

That's it. Something that I always teach my coaching clients, even when they set their goals and dream, is asking the question, “Are you willing to sacrifice what you need to sacrifice in order to get there?” You’ve got to be hungry. In those moments of working toward your dreams, there are going to be obstacles and challenges. You're going to feel not doing it or giving up.

I think that hunger and that vision towards the place that you want to move toward the future, that's what keeps you motivating yourself as you mentioned. In the back of your book, you have this quote, “Do not fade into the background of familiarity.” What does that mean to you? What inspired you to write that at the back of your book?

This I remember writing during a writing course I took at HCC because after high school, I went to HCC for the first two years, and then I transferred to Tulane. During our writing course, I loved my professor. He was a genius in my mind. He was good. Every time he come into class, he's like, “You have ten minutes to journal in about your day. Write whatever you want on this piece of paper.” I started writing. I'm like, “I don't know what to say. Today is Monday, blah, blah, blah.” This came out of it, and I liked it because it spoke to me in a way.

I'm like, “I have been stuck in my comfort zone, and I haven't done much with it other than just go to school. I had this perfect plan but things don't always go according to plan.” You can't be stuck in that one phase of your life. If anything goes wrong or something, then you freak out and don't know what to do. You have to adjust and overcome. That's how this started, and I liked it so much to where I'm like, “I'm going to put it in like the back of the book.”

I feel that's such a great analogy to life and pursuing things we have never done before. Even like you said, “I started writing, ‘Today's Monday.’” Nothing too deep but I took action. In the midst of that action and that writing, that inspiration came. Many times, we are waiting for this inspiration and this motivation to come even before we start, which is the opposite. You’ve got to start and you get motivated and inspired so many times because every day, you're not going to feel like writing deep poems. It's like that. You’ve got to take that first step. In the midst of taking action, you gain that clarity.

I agree.

You decided to publish this book. You had most of the material, I assume. Most of them in writing already. Did you have it in a notebook or in a laptop?

I'm pretty old school. I love the feel of paper and the pen. I had a journal that I kept. It was strictly for poetry. I had another journal that I write my everyday thoughts on or my plan for the day, or stuff like that. For the poetry one, it was this collection of poems in there that I had to sift through and rearrange into four chapters: Grief, Anxiety, Longing, and Healing.

I had to come up with an introduction and an ending portion of the book. That took me a while because I didn't know where I would go with it. I ended up having the background and the message to the reader at the end of the book and the background in the beginning. For the cover, we were locked down for three months. I bought a small canvas. I started and I bought different colored Sharpie pens. I started doodling on it. The ending of the canvas was like this. I had to learn to scan it, download everything, and try to add more color to it whenever it was on a computer screen instead of in front of me. I turned that into my book cover.

I love it. I think it's very creative and colorful. It also reflects the content of the book in a way. I'm very inspired. I'm a step-by-step person. I’ve got to have a higher vision and chunk down into the details. You wanted to publish this, and another comment that I want to make, always the end of the project seems freaking endless. Even when I was working on my digital course, the last 10%, it felt like climbing that mountain, and I'm not ready for it. It always seems so long. It's good to validate that feeling because you're telling me it was similar to you as you’re working.

I did the formats in portion because on Amazon, I have both the paperback version, which is the physical copy and the Kindle version. Those are two completely different formats. I had to try to come up with a format for whenever it's a print book and whenever it’s an electronic book. That even looks different if you are reading it from your phone or tablet or even computer because it's different screens. That last part took me the longest out of everything honestly.

I kept getting frustrated because I'm like, “Why is this not working and everything?” When I clicked publish on Amazon, I ordered me an author's book immediately, and I unpublished it right then and there. I was like, “I want no one to see my work or anything like that until I make sure I get my author's copy and there are no mistakes in it or anything like that.”

Were you learning all of these by yourself or was someone guiding you? How did that process work?

For the editing process, I'm very thankful for one of my professors. He was kind enough to help me edit everything whenever I decided what poems to keep and the chapters and everything. He helped me with the editing. The rest, I'm YouTube-ing everything. I'm like, “How do I publish my book? What do I do for formatting? How about the book cover?” It needs to be in certain formats or files to upload it. I had to learn that on my own.

It's a process. I get it. When you decided to publish your book, did you share that with someone? Did you have any limiting belief or any fear other than the one of like, “What if I'm super successful?” What were you feeling inside of you when you decided to expose yourself completely with this book?

I remember I told my family, and then I had asked one of my favorite professors since college. I asked him if he could help me with the editing, and he was nice enough to say yes. My mom and my brothers were very encouraging. They're like, “You have to follow through with it.” Every day, I was working on it. My mom would come and check the progress to see because I needed that little push. She'll check and be like, “Keep going,” or if I missed something like, “Are you working on it? What are you doing?”

My biggest fear other than the fear of succeeding was people not resonating with my work or not liking it or finding that what I had to say was something that they couldn't relate to. I wanted it so much to be relatable. After people got it and started leaving little reviews on Amazon or my Instagram like messaging me and stuff, a lot of them said, not to exaggerate or anything, but they all said that they related to it, and it was very touching and emotional for them.

That always makes me super happy to hear because that was why I wanted to publish it in the first place. It was also whenever I wrote it, those were the actual emotions I was going through and I was feeling. The fact that I was able, with my writing, to capture those moments and whenever someone else reads it, feels the same way, that's the biggest accomplishment.

 

For a writer, there is no bigger accomplishment than capturing moments through writing and seeing readers feel the same way as you do.

 

That's so true. You'll see people's transformation through your work. That's beautiful. How long did it take between the time you were like, “I'm going to publish it,” until it happened?

I think it took me six months.

What would you say was the key to success to make it happen in six months? If someone is like, “Kaidi, I want to write a book. I have some of it, but not all of it yet. I want to make it happen as soon as possible.” What would you say to them? What is the first thing that they need to start working on?

Push yourself to at least work on a couple of poems every day. Even 5 or 30 minutes every day, you have to stay consistent with that. It was hard for me to do so because I procrastinate a lot. It's a very bad habit, but it was hard to get my notes and try to type everything down and added them and all of that. I never pushed myself that hard or committed to doing something every day like that.

It was good that my family was supportive and my mom would push me. My professor would also be like, “We have to work at least 30 minutes on this.” It helped because I'm like, “Now I have people pushing me to do that.” If I was by myself, it probably would have taken me longer because I would have not necessarily taken it as serious, but I would have probably be like, “I'll do it tomorrow,” then tomorrow comes. I'm like, “I'll do it the next day.” It would've kept going like that.

There is research that shows that having an accountability partner or a coach or whoever keeps you accountable, it helps you move towards that goal and make it happen a lot faster. I get it. I understand. I love that advice about at least 30 minutes every day, it’s not going to be perfect. It doesn't matter how you feel, just 30 minutes. That's what matters at the end of the day. I'm obsessed with this productivity technique that aids on that process. Have you heard of Pomodoro?

No, I have not.

Pomodoro is like dividing your work on chunks of 25 minutes of uninterrupted execution, just focus time, which is basically what you're saying in different words. What you're saying is like, “Every day I did one Pomodoro.” Honestly, in huge projects like writing a book or doing your digital course, I find that’s helpful. Sometimes you don't have idea of the exact steps when it's something you have never done before. I love dedicating a set amount of time every day of uninterrupted focus to that project, then you start gaining clarity as you continue moving forward.

I need to try it in my schoolwork now.

Believe me, it's going to be so helpful. I'm going to send you a link for the website that I use to record my Pomodoro. It’s basically a timer. After 25 minutes, it starts beeping. Even when you finish those 25 minutes, it's like, “One Pomodoro done.” I record every Pomodoro that I've done. I love all the productivity stuff. You write in your book about grief, anxiety, longing, and healing. What have been your key lessons in this journey? When you are still healing, I feel like healing is a lifelong process, but what have been your key lessons of these areas?

I mentioned it earlier where we’re all aware that life is short, but we never come to terms with that unless we go through something drastic like loss, whether it's for a loved one or a job, whatever it is. You don't realize that until you go through that loss. After that happened, I had to learn to fight for your dreams and follow them, and see them through.

As you said about your uncle, my aunts were the same way. They had many dreams and many things that they wanted to realize and all of that, but they didn't get a chance to. In a way, it pushed me to try to do that for myself. I'm like, “I have to realize my dreams.” At least I'm trying to teach myself not to have any regrets.

One of the poems in my book mentions that. My thought process was we shouldn't have any regrets in life because at the time, given our circumstances and situation, we made the best choice that we could for ourselves. Even if that choice doesn't have the result that we wanted or doesn't come to play the way we expected it to, but that's okay because in the moment, you did what you could.

I always try to remind myself of that, especially whenever I tend to stress and worry sometimes. It's because of the anxiety thing. I'm not sure why, but I have all these questions when I either overthink of things that won't even happen or probably if they would, it's very rare to happen, or all these what-if scenarios that pop into my head.

I always try to remind myself of that where I'm like, “I shouldn't have any regrets. I have to focus on doing what I can now. Whatever is going to happen, it's going to happen.” Try to control what you can, and everything that’s outside of our control should stay that way. I think it's outside of our control for a reason, so we shouldn't try controlling it, if that makes sense.

I resonate with that. Many times, we are focusing on what we can't control, which is the future. The only thing we can control is the present moment, doing our best, and showing up in the best way we can. What I've found with myself and also my clients is that anxiety is a sign from your body and mind that you're focusing on what you don't want.

Most of the times when we have anxiety is because we are thinking of the worst thing that can happen, but the opposite can also be truth. What is the best thing that can happen? I think when you focus on what you can control and on what you want as you continue moving forward, you can be unstoppable. You can do anything that you put your mind into it. I love that you shared your experience.

Thank you. I agree. I don't know if you're spiritual or not, but I think our mind is so powerful. Even those thoughts of worries and the what-if scenarios and stuff, you make that happen by you thinking about it. Your mind manifests that in a way. It's good to try not to do that because as you said, those are things that you don't want to happen yet. You're bringing them into life by manifesting them and thinking about them all the time. You should also only try thinking of the things that you want to happen, but it's difficult to do. I'm still struggling with that.

It is a day-to-day process. We’ve got to bring this mindset every day. This is not a destination of like, “I did it for one week and I'm done.” It's like anything else like going to a gym or meditating. It is a lifelong everyday process. It is true. When you're in the midst of it, you are like, “I'm so overwhelmed. I'm so stuck.” I was reading one of your poem, which makes so much sense, “Remember that everything is temporary, and your future is going to be better.”

I have your poem here. Kaidi says, “Everything tomorrow is bigger than what's happening today. Everything today is only temporary. Remember that.” I think that's such a beautiful way of remembering that everything is temporary. Tomorrow is always better. That's so nice. I love it. This is very fluid but I've been enjoying our conversation. As we conclude, first things first, where can we find your book? Where can we find you? Give us all that important information.

My book is available on Amazon. You can order it. It's only $10 for the paper copy, and I think $7 or $6 for the Kindle version. For me, if you go to Amazon under the Author's page, I have my Bits & Pieces poetry page for Instagram on there. My actual Instagram is @Kaidi.Sophia. It's pretty simple. I hope people get it and hopefully like it. I would love to hear all the feedback that they have. Even if it's bad, I don't mind. It's a way for me to improve.

You guys need to check it out. I read most of the book, and I'm inspired by everything Kaidi has written about. I'm inspired by every piece, the front, the back, and the middle. Everything is so well thought out. Not only that, but you can feel the emotion when you read it. I feel that an author that is capable of releasing those emotions in the reader is brilliant. You need to check out her book. Kaidi, I always conclude with a rapid-fire question. I'm going to be asking you questions that I want you to answer quickly. Do not overthink it. Let's go with the flow. Are you ready?

I tend to overtake, but I'll do my best.

We’re in the flow, and you have done amazing in this interview. What's your favorite book?

The Alchemist.

WCP S1 E63 | Limiting Beliefs

From Paulo Coelho.

Yes, I love The Alchemist.

Who is your biggest role model?

My mom.

Moms are the best.

Especially for me coming from a single mom. I think you have to be that close to your parent because you only have one.

That's it. What's the most important piece of advice you would give to your younger self?

Don't worry about what's to come. I don't know if you read The Alchemist. They say there about the concept of Maktub. It's like whatever is meant to be or whatever is destined to happen will happen. I would love to tell that to myself. It would release so much angst and nerves and worries if I knew that earlier.

For your younger self or your adult self, I think that piece of advice fits us all. What are you the most excited about doing these days?

I started jiu-jitsu. As you said, it's hard to keep staying motivated if you don't have someone to hold you accountable. I like it so far because the coaches push you, “Do this and do that.” It's a great way to exercise, but you're also learning self-defense at the same time. It's great for my shoulder too because I'm still recovering from the surgery. They're going easy on me because of my shoulder, but other than, it's great. I'm trying to stay consistent with that.

I'm so excited for you. I'm so excited for everything you are doing. What’s your big next project or step in your journey or whatever that is?

Now, I'm trying to get through school and graduate.

You graduate in 2023?

Yes, next May 2023. I also have a little book project in the works. We'll see how that goes.

I can’t wait. That's so exciting. I want to tell you, I'm so proud of you. This has been such an inspiring experience. I've been getting this calling. You get this calling and you're like, “Write a book.” I'm going to start. I think interviewing you has been so inspiring in every sense, in the depth of your book, in the depth of how wise you are. I'm grateful that you came here in this show and we had this interview. I appreciate you. I hope all the readers get her book. It's called Bits & Pieces. Thank you so much, Kaidi. Is there anything you would like to say before we conclude?

Nothing other than thank you so much for having me. This has been such a pleasure talking to you, and getting to know you outside of the Women's Business Trivia group. It's been great.

Thank you so much, Kaidi. Thank you for everyone for reading this episode. If this episode was inspiring and helpful to you, please share it with your friends and families. We are here to continue inspiring the world to pursue their dreams and to be their best selves. That's what we are here for. I hope to see you next episode. Thanks for tuning in.

 

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About Kaidi Sophia Sluder

WCP S1 E63 | Limiting Beliefs

Kaidi Sophia Sluder is a Chinese-Moroccan-American author with a Homeland Security Major who recently published her first poetry book "Bits & Pieces: Grief, Anxiety, Longing & Healing." The book intends to help readers express and understand their emotions and heal from their traumas through Kaidi's life journey.

 

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